avian
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Post by avian on Apr 7, 2013 6:05:28 GMT -5
Well no matter what I try I am not able to login or create an account with either the client or the Duena website, if anyone can point me at a working process I will happily try it. I checked that the program was not being blocked by the firewall, but still failed. It would not allow me to test the connection as it said it could not login.
Seems to me this is an aspect of this program that is in real need of an update.
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Post by bushflyer on Apr 7, 2013 8:23:09 GMT -5
I thought for sure that my workaround might have helped you out, being I had the same account creating problems you did at first.
Anyways, you can email John Mueller here: softplus@gmail.com
He told me he was pretty short on time, so that explains why it took him a while to get back to my emails. It can't hurt for you to try to email him at this point.
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avian
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Post by avian on Apr 7, 2013 15:55:12 GMT -5
Thanks for that BF, I emailed him and will wait to see if he has a solution.
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teson1
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Post by teson1 on Apr 9, 2013 14:48:28 GMT -5
Landing on the dam - very cool. Well done. Dang about the crash. Better luck next time ! Btw, you can load a very detailed track into GE from the Duenna flight site by clicking into "Get full ... KML". (You may have to have the "Real-time position feed" checkbox checked, at bottom of the Duenna settings page - not sure) Also, you'll notice that if you open that full kml for the flight that crashed, it will display the track until the point you crashed (and the "Get full ... TSV" allows to load a table with speed, altitude ect into a spreadsheet). Don't worry, Duenna big brother is watching you Attachments:
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Post by bushflyer on Apr 9, 2013 20:59:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the KML info, I never tried that feature out. All makes sense now. ...just when I thought I wouldn't learn something new today... ... ;D
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codge
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Post by codge on Apr 12, 2013 4:57:47 GMT -5
Yes, I see now that 'course 1' has indeed been added to the list. Click on 'settings' on the Duenna and pick event which in this case is 'course 1'.
Thanks for the post BF for those that may have trouble logging in and setting up a name.
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avian
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Post by avian on Apr 16, 2013 16:46:32 GMT -5
Well I waited for some time but never got a reply, I guess the guy is very busy. Anyway, I decided to give BF's method another go and hey! I got logged in, at last!
So I set up for leg 4 and flew most of it, but I had to abandon the flight due to getting a phone call, so I aborted that one and did it again.
Hope this is OK?
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Post by bushflyer on Apr 16, 2013 21:41:10 GMT -5
Well I waited for some time but never got a reply, I guess the guy is very busy. Anyway, I decided to give BF's method another go and hey! I got logged in, at last! So I set up for leg 4 and flew most of it, but I had to abandon the flight due to getting a phone call, so I aborted that one and did it again. Hope this is OK? It took me about two or three tries during a month's time. JM told me he was busy on many things. I considered myself lucky just to get a reply from him. It's good to see you had some success, as limited as it may be. It's still a 'success'. You're faring better at Duenna than I am: I still can't figure out my Duenna. It's still showing my start-ups at 'en route' (which is what it is until the auto-baton kicks in, usually about 20 to 30-some seconds in after takeoff), then it shows my full green Duenna flight as 'OK'. I feel for those admins who have to take a look at my flights involving Duenna, being mine is always way messed up. Here, or at FlightSim, I can't get a one-submit Duenna if my life depended on it -you are making much more progress than I ever did. Don't stop now. I keep waiting to hear an admin DQ me in any of these events that I enter, or blatantly throw me out of the event. When that day comes, it will be no big deal. I'm happy just doing what legs I can do, on any course. It's always good for me to find new areas to fly, and get some new flight plans in the process... As far as the aborted flight due to a phone call goes, that's a tough nut to crack. Hitting 'Pause' would have worked, but the Duenna keeps on-a-running. Like Teson says, the big brother Duenna is always watching... Anyways, good luck. I hope it works out for you.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 17, 2013 10:01:31 GMT -5
That will be a tough one. The intent with each leg is that you should not be able to see what time you need in order to win, and then fly the leg over and over again until you get that time. That's why I would prefer the uploaded files that Duenna does automatically, instead of the forums posts (where the pilot selects his favorite duenna results). Same thing with the crash... if you see that you're not going to make your time, just ditch your plane into the woods and fly it again. So, the rules state that a crash will count... keep flying the next leg.
I have no idea how a pause effects the Duenna's flight time. I assume that the baton time will keep ticking, but that's ok because we're not using the baton time.
In this particular case, on leg 4, you got all the way to the reservoir and aborted... and then flew the leg again with a 5-minute improvement (past the aborted time). I think the "most fair" course of action in this case is to treat your leg 4 time results as a crash (slowest successful time + 1 minute), which would be slowest of your two attempts.
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avian
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Post by avian on Apr 17, 2013 10:25:57 GMT -5
Good by me Jimmy, (Although 5 minute improvement does show that I was forced to cruise for an age while I was rabbiting on the phone, I seriously doubt if you could improve a properly flown leg by 5 minutes!) I had no idea how a pause would work anyway, but that's useful to know for future reference. Hopefully from now on though the rules and methodology are clearer and as such should present less of a problem. Thanks for your guidance etc on this one.
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avian
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Post by avian on Apr 17, 2013 11:44:46 GMT -5
Leg 5 completed. Hopefully this one is all OK!
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Post by bushflyer on Apr 18, 2013 21:26:01 GMT -5
I flew the final leg, and finished green. Link to this flight here.Verification txt here: fs-duenna.com/flights/logs/OnnZVkBpBrZQaFRTVTAcmZxsno8.txtThe jpeg here shows the flight from Swift Reservoir to Mt St Helens Aero. I flew completely around Mt St Helens clockwise. It doesn't look like it here though now. To restart from the crash position and to have close representation of fuel, I needed to go back and reload from Trout Lake leg 4 flight, and land at the Swift Reservoir crash spot, or close to it. I chose to fly straight to Swift, being I already completed the circle Mt Adams in the previous green flight leg. For those who are familiar or have FSFlying School, here's the flight from Trout Lake to Swift Reservoir: Landed safe, saved this flight. Then on to the final leg. You see what I see now. It shows me as not flying around Mt St Helens. I think I will have to refly this again, and then repost my last leg results. Then the committee can decide which one to use. Or use none of them... I'm not sure when I'm reflying it. I'm done flying tonight. I'm too hot to fly anything. I definitely learned a valuable lesson tonight: From now on, I am using FS Flying School, along with Duenna. I'm to the point now that I don't care that if it's gonna bog down my OS with me running FSX with REX, Duenna, and now FSFS. I don't give a dam if my OS runs at 1 or 2 fps's... If I would have used FSFS on the last leg here, I would have even more proof that I did circle Mt St Helens - way more accurate proof than this Duenna... Now I need to do a reflight. Ridiculous. I did it right the first time. It shows me starting at WN10, and ending at WN10. It lists that in my flight flies. It's wrong. The coordinates don't lie, Duenna did. I started at Swift Reservoir, as the jpeg and the coordinates indicate. The coordinates are accurate at the start and end points. And there's absolutely NO WAY that this flight was 13 nm... Nothing about my last leg flight here makes any sense. I did it right, but all of the verification here tonight on the Duenna is absolute crap. The only good thing about the Duenna tonight: the kml DOESN'T LIE either: Link to the kml here: live.fs-duenna.com/track/ReplayFlightJson.php?format=kml&flightid=OnnZVkBpBrZQaFRTVTAcmZxsno8that kml jpeg: That's no 13 nm flight. This is my only saving grace (w/much thanks to teson for this kml tip)... All you guys swear by Duenna -I swear AT IT.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 19, 2013 2:33:24 GMT -5
Avian, don't worry so much about what the jpg image shows... the kml file shows you flying around the mountain each time.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 19, 2013 2:36:11 GMT -5
Also, when you land or takeoff from "off airport", such as the Swift Reservoir location, the Duenna simply grabs the nearest ICAO to use in the "from/to" info lines (kinda like FSE).
No need to get grumpy at the Duenna.... it's performing exactly like it should, and your flights are logging just fine. :^)
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avian
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Post by avian on Apr 19, 2013 2:49:33 GMT -5
Avian, don't worry so much about what the jpg image shows... the kml file shows you flying around the mountain each time. Um, never said a word! Looking forward to race #2 though!
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