teson1
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Post by teson1 on Apr 12, 2013 17:16:45 GMT -5
Hi Japo, sorry to see you still have problems. You've searched a lot online, so probably have seen the advice by Spookster, but if not: "Some of us in the FS-MP team have had exactly this issue (we all fly FSX). Try these two things: 1. Make sure your FSX default flight has the real/dynamic updated weather. (In free flight, select the real/dynamic weather, then save that flight, and tick the "save as default" option) That may fix your problem, but if not try number 2. 2. When you load FSX, first set weather to non-real world, click ok, then set weather to real world/dynamic, click ok. You'll see it load the real world data, and you'll be at the map page with the real weather shown. Now start your flight. Hopefully one of those solutions works for you... Regards, Martin. " www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?192472-lt-Sigh-gt-I-Guess-Some-Things-Never-ChangeAs a last resort you could still participate to the race, maybe without competing. The Duenna will be green and the flights will log to the Duenna site, even if the weather is not registered correctly (I believe). The .txt file will have the "No Good" remark though, which technically invalidates the flight. So as a last resort you could fly the courses, and personally benchmark your flights against the others (or not) - if you're feeling competitive minded. You would have all the fun of the race, just would not be competing for the prizes at the end of the season. But seriously, nobody here is in for the prizes. So there's no reason why you shouldn't fly the legs. And maybe Jimmy would even be willing log your flights on the official results table - marked as out of competition. And seriously, nobody here doubts you'd fly with RW anyway. Putting all this effort in to troubbleshoot, flying a plane like the Katana, fundamentally disadvantaged by the realistic engine simulation - cudos (and we'd be able to verify the wind and wind direction from the Duenna log so would catch somebody flying with no wind or grossly wrong winds anyway). So if I'd had a say I'd advocate to just let you fully compete (i.e. collect points for the final tally) with us and after all the effort you've put in... But that's my personal opinion only of course. Any decision is of course completely up to Jimmy. He's the boss.
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teson1
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Post by teson1 on Apr 12, 2013 17:46:54 GMT -5
Ah, another comment.
Please, nobody bash John Mueller, the author of this fantastic piece of free software.
There have been a lot of updates already, each making it more polished and functional.
Just look at how professional and accomplished it is - logging all these parameters for the flight, creating an individual page with useful and interesting information of the flight, several layers of information about the flight, ability to load it into Google Earth, and not to speak of the links to the beautiful photos at Flickr of the area one has been flying through (I love to peruse these photos after each flight - makes me really travel to faraway places I'll never get to).
And all this for free !
And it works for most people out of the box. We can't complain if sometimes things don't work out as expected.
Johannes is a very busy guy. He did this in his free time.
We should thank him for what he has given us !
At some point we have to let developers of freeware pull back (for whatever reason they have) and hand over support of their child to the community. Even if that means that some people have problems, and that some problems will not be solved.
The yearly "Round the World Race" wouldn't be what it is without Duenna (and the RTWR was the primary reason Duenna was developed).
And it also enables events such as this. (And I also extremely appreciate to be able to log, document and analyze personal flights.)
Let's appreciate his work for what it is - a unique contribution to the community.
Thanks.
Gunter
(Sry for this long ramble - but it had to get out)
And we can
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japo32
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Post by japo32 on Apr 12, 2013 17:55:52 GMT -5
Thanks Teson1 also for the big help!
Well.. nothing. The same.. and I start to feel like the ones that tried before me and didn't find any solution. Suppose that there is something more to do. Install FSX from scratch and begin testing... BUT no no.. that is not a solution for sure!! too much here. Maybe that is the problem. That too much. Maybe something is modifying something inside fsx that makes duenna fail. Even I discovered that TacPack addom didn't let me put collisions. Who knows. I deactivated OpusFSX and nothing.. There is no other weather engine. Only As2012 but I don't load it.. and like OpusFSX it connects with simconnect I think... not anything installed inside Modules folder.
Anyway.. will rest and if I have time and ideas will try them. For now I know that I am not the only one with this unresolved problem.
Thanks!
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Post by jimmy on Apr 12, 2013 21:45:49 GMT -5
At this time, I would say just go ahead and race the race as you have things. We're not so "well founded" that we have all of the wrinkles ironed out to be sticklers about each detail. If the weather is your only error, then I think the race results should count.
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japo32
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Post by japo32 on Apr 13, 2013 4:48:06 GMT -5
Thanks!
Well you could see in the two reports that I used weather... becuase there is an average wind head component in both. Of course I never use no wind and now weather. That is too boring. Also saw some people with auto mixture.. but I always put no automixture.. and put all bars to the right. The only parameter I don't like is the crashing one.. because there are some airports that have those invisible walls that make crash to the plane... but I understand that in this case because beeing bush flying we have to avoid the trees (that I always do when I don't put collision. But ok.
So here comes another question if I can run the race. What do I have to put in the online parameters to autoupload the results?
About the Real-WX I would like to fix it becuase I see there are other races around the world where I would like to use my A2A P51... but that is another thing. I emailed yesterday to the creator of the duenna program knowing that he almost sure won't reply me, because it is too old since he was online I guess.
Well.. Thanks! and that is the question. What I need to put in the online part to upload automatically?
Thanks!
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teson1
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Post by teson1 on Apr 13, 2013 6:32:32 GMT -5
So here comes another question if I can run the race. What do I have to put in the online parameters to autoupload the results? I've uploaded my Duenna settings to the FS-Duenna Support forum. bprl.freeforums.net/index.cgi?board=duenna&action=display&thread=34 Also saw some people with auto mixture.. but I always put no automixture.. Ouch But you're of course right. Even if not required at all by the rules, using manual mixture is the realistic way to go in the framework of bush flying. I like your way of flying !
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teson1
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Post by teson1 on Apr 13, 2013 6:33:01 GMT -5
So here comes another question if I can run the race. What do I have to put in the online parameters to autoupload the results? I've uploaded my Duenna settings to the FS-Duenna Support forum. bprl.freeforums.net/index.cgi?board=duenna&action=display&thread=34 Also saw some people with auto mixture.. but I always put no automixture.. Ouch But you're of course right. Even if not required at all by the rules, using manual mixture is the realistic way to go in the framework of bush flying. I like your way of flying.
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japo32
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Post by japo32 on Apr 13, 2013 14:36:33 GMT -5
Well.... the Katana don't have mixture lever.. hehe.. so I think it automixture it.... It has prop one.. but I have to relax prop to not burn the engine (that burns) and when I do it I have less speed but at least I have engine. Lol! Other planes that I fly I always do it with maximun realism possible, but always deactivate the collision option because the invisible walls.
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codge
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Post by codge on Apr 16, 2013 6:06:22 GMT -5
Although this/these posts are in the wrong thread as Duenna has its own one, don't forget that yellow is not the end of the world. Red is! Because it is the text file that is scrutinized and not the pretty picture so much, don't lose too much sleep over it. The yellow in any box will be looked at and any issue that is not your fault will be apparent. I trust the judges will see any situation for what it is. Just check and recheck you haven't over looked something when tired (it happens to me semi regularly, same with posting in wrong threads!). Saying that, I am just another flyer here and not an official in any way and am making these comments as have been made before in the RTW. I am speaking strictly from a 'common sense' point of view. I do know the duenna was made for windows XP and FS9 in the first place so no issue there. Do be clear about the difference in taking a snapshot every 15 mins and updating every 15 mins. Real Wx updating is the one you want. Not snapshot. I trust it is not a FSUIPC thing? Could be worth checking. I hope you get sorted. If you are doing everything right and being honest fly with a yellow box! It's the red ones you don't want. it's like driving your car. Yellow is OK even if green is better. Red is a no no. I wouldn't pullout of the race over it. Lastly, a yellow box can take a few (10 or so usually) seconds to get sorted out and change to a green when first starting and resetting the Duenna.
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japo32
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Post by japo32 on Apr 17, 2013 2:53:52 GMT -5
Hi!
Well I have been testing this new idea of "10 seconds to become green" but nothing. 10, 1minute or more and nothing.. he wants to be yellow, so let be yellow! One thing I saw is that if I start Duenna in the free flight menu all the boxes are green but not the On-Ground that is red.. and also not the Real-WX that is yellow. That means the problem is not in the previous flight loaded or whatever... it is in the main FSX.
I am going to make the testings today racing the practice circuit and I am going to use OpusFSX because it gives me the same yellow warning than without Opus.. so I preffer a better weather engine for sure. The basic is I am running in real time weather.
And that is. I have a last question... that is: When I have to press the button of "I have the baton"? Making some testings before seems that the time was started before taking off.. so the time is bigger than it should be. It is supposed Duenna start timming when lift off? So when I have to press the button "I have the baton? When the battery is on?
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Post by jimmy on Apr 17, 2013 10:07:20 GMT -5
Well, if we were using the duenna "baton time", you would want to hit the "I have baton" immediately prior to pushing in the throttle for take off, in order to keep that number as low as possible. However, since we're not using that number, you're ok to "grab the baton" whenever, but I would recommend that be the last thing you do prior to take off.
As another option: I believe that if you select the "Arm Auto Baton" option, then you do not need to worry about "grabbing the baton", as this option kicks in the Duenna recorder automatically when it detects that you are moving.
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japo32
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Post by japo32 on Apr 17, 2013 10:24:35 GMT -5
Yes yes.. I discovered the auto function! Thanks!
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Post by kronzky on Apr 21, 2013 14:32:26 GMT -5
Well I have been testing this new idea of "10 seconds to become green" but nothing. 10, 1minute or more and nothing.. he wants to be yellow, so let be yellow! I just had the same issue with Duenna, where the weather checkbox just wouldn't turn green, and I resolved it by running Duenna on the same machine that I run FSX on. ( Everything else - in Duenna and lots of other apps that communicate with FSX - ran just fine through the network, but hey — it's computers!) So in case you have a networked setup, that might be the solution. If not, well, then I guess someone else will have to come up with another suggestion. P.S. Turns out that if I run Duenna on that same machine the weather status is ALWAYS green, EVEN if I switch to static weather! So I guess the weather status isn't too reliable after all...
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